American BJJ pioneer Bob Bass joins the show to talk about training with the Gracies and Machados in the early days in California, his Wrestling base and how it helped him in BJJ, winning the first Pan Ams and his decision to become a teacher. Click “read more” for listening options and show notes!

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  • Erik Paulson
  • Origins
  • Intro to martial arts
  • Training with the Gracies
  • Rolling with Royce
  • Rolker Gracie
  • Learning from Rigan Machado
  • What style he feels is the best base for grappling
  • The Wrestling mentality
  • Winning the first BJJ Pan Ams
  • Bias that existed in the early days
  • His match with Marcio Feitosa
  • Getting his black belt
  • The decision to become a teacher
  • The dojo storm days
  • Self defense and weapons
  • Gene LeBell
  • The Pummel
  • The time it takes to go from white belt to black belt
  • His Black Belt Legacy website
  • Advice for smaller practitioners
  • Choosing conditioning that simulates Jiu-Jitsu
  • Advice white belts
  • 2020 goals